GOTCHA!: The Moment Joe Rogan's Jew-Hating Guest Gave Himself Away

And he woulda gotten away with it too, if it weren't for this...

"I'm not saying that all Jews are in on something," said Ian Carroll, who believes that the Jews (remember, not all) were behind 9/11. On the Joe Rogan Show, he went on to promulgate the commonly held dark-web belief that Israel was in cahoots with Epstein.

In Carroll's universe, the world's one Jewish state, tiny though it may be, is uniquely sneaky and powerful. No world event, no matter how tragic and abhorrent, has avoided connection to this powerful, shadowy state.

Where have we heard this rhetoric before?

After 15 years of unfettered woke leftism that poisoned the cultural zeitgeist with anti-Semitism, there is something of a musical beat to the Jew-hate from the inevitable alt-right backlash.

You can almost find beauty in its horrifying symmetry like a gothic pendulum swinging back and forth to a choir of insane voices. True to form, Jew-hatred - as Jordan Peterson often points out - is a litmus test for the excesses of both sides of the political spectrum. It is a symptom of a society gone awry.

Carroll Is Right to Ask Questions

Before I get to why Carroll is biased and deluded, I want to state that he has a right to make his points and politicise something he believes is correct and essential. Having been on YouTube for five years, I'm also familiar with conspiracy theorists' methods (I'll explain why he is one).

Their method - as is the case with the QAnon Pizzagate guys and the Flat Earthers - is to flood you with so much information - including countless names of, in this case, Jewish-sounding people - that you don't have time to process or respond.

It is, therefore, more complicated than you might imagine to argue with a Flat Earther or 9/11 Truther. I'm not going to waste my time and yours in convincing you Israel had nothing to do with 9/11 or Epstein. It may even be the case that - like all countries (Carroll, to his credit, makes this point) - it does have some deep-state functions none of us know about.

Discrediting Carroll

What I can do in this relatively short article is discredit Carroll by:

1. Pointing out a fundamental issue in his thinking - one that he accidentally let slip on the show.

2. Pointing out a clear error, which stems from the first point - his thinking (or lack thereof).

So, let's start with that thinking.

Ian Carroll is like a flat earther

Here is his explanation to Rogan for how he became an Israel truther who is certain Israel "did" 9/11, that Israel wants to "rape [his] children" and that the Holocaust was "embellished":

…and I realised I better fucking understand this thing before I crater my new channel and career on this topic I don't understand. If I'm gonna take a stance against Israel […] I should understand why and how, so I started doing research

This is the manifesto of the conspiracy theorist.

A key tenet of human psychology that many of us find hard to accept is that we don't form our beliefs in the pursuit of truth. Many experiments show this to be true, but you can see it happen in real-time anecdotally. We see how groups believe what they are incentivised to believe to fit in with their tribe.

Carroll first decided what he believed: he wanted to take a stance against Israel. Only then did he decide to find out why. That is, he had a feeling and then went about collating evidence to prove it.

In so doing, Carroll ran counter to Bertrand Russell's advice:

Never let yourself be diverted, either by what you wish to believe, or what you think could have beneficent social effects if it were believed; but look only and solely at what are the facts.

If you decide first that you are a Flat Earther or 9/11 Truther, you will focus your time collecting and digesting "facts" that prove your point while dismissing those that prove you wrong. You'll find kin who share your views, embedding yourself in their circles until your idea - that Israel was behind 9/11 - becomes self-evident.

Ryan Dawson - The WORST!

Before I get back to the glaring mistake Carroll made about 9/11 and Netanyahu, let me introduce you briefly to another conspiracy theorist in this realm who I studied a few years ago: low-IQ pseudo-historian Ryan Dawson. I don't say this to score points. I genuinely think this man - who has substantial dark-web clout - is intellectually challenged.

A few years ago, I read an article he republished after ten years because it was his favourite—I can't find it now. I was intrigued to find that every single suspected person who rules the world has a Jewish name. Equally interesting, his beloved essay was strewn with spelling mistakes, typos and syntax errors. I’m not talking about occasional errors that we all make, but several in some sentences.

I'm no pedant, and I don't believe that only well-read and literate people deserve a say. But I think that if you – like Ryan Dawson – set yourself up as an investigative historian and journalist, you'd be advised to check your work and ensure it isn't filled with mistakes. Because if he is as sloppy with his research as his spelling, you get the picture.

His supporters - just like Carroll's - insisted that Dawson didn't hate Jews, just Israel. But, like clockwork, this video came out:

It's funny how he keeps saying Jew instead of Israel.

It must be some sort of speech impediment.

Anyone with more than two brain cells knows that you can replace Jew with Muslim, Christian, Boy Scout leaders and so on in his anti-Semitic rant.

But this is the intellectual sphere he inhabits.

Carroll is more intelligent than Dawson but still makes obvious errors about Israel. And this is the most egregious example of Carroll being embarrassingly wrong:

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